However, that isn't even remotely the case when it comes to the Grand Kai, who is — similar to the other weaklings on this list — nowhere close to developing the aptitude to defeat Goku. However, fans of the original Dragon Ball series can attest to the fact that this old cat is actually — as hard as it might be to believe — a Guardian of Earth. H owever, Cumber got his butt whooped by Ultra Instinct Goku, so Jiren is almost as strong as mastered Ultra Instinct Goku. However, the limitations of Shenron became painfully noticeable later on. Featuring an elephant for a head, you'd expect this God to wipe the floor with anyone and everyone who'd even look at him wrong. Whoo boy, at this point you might understandably be confused as to why someone as pathetic as Korin has made this list. He was the one who taught the Kaio-Ken power to Goku after all. His home is the Grand Kai's Planet. However, both Goku and Paikuhan were disqualified for touching the ceiling during their match, which the Dai Kaiou considered out of bounds. I don't think we see him train with grand kai in the anime or manga. Goku looks at everyone around them, him, the gods and their angels, Majin Buu, Gohan and Hercule are the only ones who know the tragedy that is about to fall. Just keep on reading this list, because that name is bound to come up at some point in time. After all, that was one of his major motivations for turning on humanity. So, if Vermoud can defeat Goku, then there's no reason to suspect why Marcarita can't do the same. There was a time when the almighty dragon Shenron used to be a force to be feared. The only time when he actually managed to do something useful also involved him being written off — in a bid to increase his power levels, Kami made the decision to fuse with Piccolo and promptly vanished. Every universe has its own mirror of sorts, and Universe 7 is no exception to this golden rule. He then states that he'll have a look at them in 200 or 300 years to train under him. We never get to see them fight, unfortunately, but it looks like Toppo was absolutely nothing to Cumber who is absurdly strong. Maybe it's going to be a similar plot as the Kai having a rivalry tournament but instead between the gods of destruction in each universe. This — coupled with the dramatic increase on power levels and the introduction of new, ground-breaking transformations — has led to the introduction of god-level power levels, typically sported by divine beings who have completely shelved Goku in terms of raw power. Nowadays, Shin serves as nothing more than another observer who just witnesses the things going on around him, and nothing else. After all, the idea of a god letting souls enter either Heaven or Hell is a highly enticing one that would raise the expectations one might have of this gatekeeper. This is perhaps the major reason why King Kai has taken a backseat to pretty much every fight — he's just not all that relevant in the grand scheme of things. However, Shin's allure was completely eliminated by figures like Kid Buu and Beerus, who showed us just how overhyped the Supreme Kai actually was. And poking in the eye or hitting below the belt are plain mean and are not allowed. Surpeme Kai, Kibito, Shira, and Naruto appear in front of the gate of a large mansion t has a beautiful garden. If that's the case, then you know for a fact that the power of the Grand Minister is nothing to scoff at. Naruto said who had an enthusiastic look on his face. Being the elder sister of Whis, you'd expect Vados to also sport the vast level of strength and a bevy of useful techniques like her brother. Dende's more of a healer, so one can't fault him for being the way he is. How could it be possible to mention the God of Destruction Beerus without mentioning his attendant and the Angel who actually taught him everything he needed to know? goku learned the fusion dance while he was with the metamarines after namek blew up. However, this is not even remotely the case. Goku and Pikkon, a warrior from the west quadrant, are dispatched to deal with it. ... (Cobra Kai) VS Mr. Miyagi and John Kreese (The Karate Kid) Who wins in a two versus two battle between the current and former masters of Miyagi-Do and Cobra Kai? In truth it had been quite a few years since Goku had seen the Grand Minister and the twin Zeno's. Grand Kai is a powerful being, but would get owned by fat buu. Zamasu was one of the most intriguing antagonists around, and one might argue that his presence is one of the major reasons why the Future Trunks arc was such a major highlight of Dragon Ball Super — the antagonist was just so riveting. Remember when we said that a powerful entity like the Grand Minister was attending for a certain someone? You'd think that looking like and being designed after a mouse is a surefire way for any character to go down the drain in terms of power and relevancy. Let's get Frieza saga Goku vs New 52 Superman. The fact that Quitela was powerful enough to beat Beerus at arm wrestling should be more than enough to cement the fact that this particular God of Destruction is not someone to be taken lightly at all. The God of Universe 9 would certainly be an imposing foe indeed. And when Moro escaped, the Galactic Patrol captured Majin Buu and reawakened the Grand Supreme Kai in order to help the patrol, as well as Goku and Vegeta, defeat Moro once again. The lowest tier of gods in the Dragon Ball universe appear to be those like Kami (神様 - literally “God” in Japanese”). In this case, the dynamic of the Angel being more powerful than the person they're attending to is simply not the case. Two different species. The official TV adaptation of the Dragon Ball manga continuity, the main Dragon Ball Z anime follows a relatively similar plot to the manga, with Son Goku and his friends and children protecting the Earth from villains threatening to destroy it. A position that has only been shown during the Buu Saga, the Grand Supreme Kai stands atop all the other Supreme Kai… However, the Zamasu we're talking about is the one in the present timeline who couldn't beat Goku, no matter how hard he tried. He did learn the fusion technique in that time span but wasn't that from someone else? So maybe that's what made Toei want to continue with the show about a year after it ended. Despite his pure-heart nature, both th… Unlike the other Gods of Destruction that we've mentioned on our list, Mule doesn't actually function on his own. Needless to say you can't kill anybody in this tournament cause they're already dead!" The Angel of Universe 7 is an interesting person indeed. He's stronger than Beerus, which implies his superiority over Goku. 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Doesn't he admit to himself Goku is way stronger than him during that filler? Although it is implied that goku became much stronger as a result of this training, I suspect, that this is when he achieved ssj3. If not that, were the arcs ever mentioned or explained since we already know that the anime is going to be an adaptation to the anime? There was a time when King Yemma used to be quite an imposing figure indeed, during the early moments of Dragon Ball Z. Champa is a force to be feared after all... and we haven't even started talking about his attendant. After all, just like his inspiration, Vermoud can certain go absolutely psycho if given the leeway to do so. Of course, there's the slightest possibility that this statement might not hold true with Ultra Instinct Goku, but — even then — it's highly unlikely that the Saiyan will be able to beat someone as powerful as Sidra, who has been shown to be quite fast and strong to boot. What exactly did he learn from the Grand kai? At the end of Shadow Dragon Saga, when Goku asks King Kai to persuade people across the universe to give some of their energy to form a Universal Spirit Bomb, the four Kais are shown on the planet: North Kai i… He is considerably stronger than the other Kais and is known to be the greatest fighter in the Galaxy. Unlike his canon self, the Grand Kai is known for executing immediate dangers the moment they present themselves, with gave him and his fellow kais a fierce reputation throughout their universe. The introduction of Beerus in Dragon Ball Super was a revolution, allowing us to familiarize ourselves with a character who was above and beyond any power level we'd seen in the series up to that point. This show was so freakin' popular that — after substantial fan uproar for around two decades — Toei Animation finally decided to give in (and by giving in, we mean that they decided to earn as much money as humanly possible) and released a sequel in the form of Dragon Ball Super. All I really saw was weight training and meditation but other than that, nothing new really. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. He learned the fusion dance from two members of the people of the planet Metamor during his seven years in the afterlife following the Cell Saga. Power. When Goku and the East Kai have a race, the Grand Kai surprises the two of them by racing towards the exit before them even though he started much later, surprising Goku. Buu was actually depowered when he absorbed Southern Supreme Kai and Grand Supreme Kai. Sigh... the sheer potential of this character should not be downplayed at all. There was a time when the Supreme Kai — also known as Shin — used to be the benchmark against which all power was measured. Goku and King Kai go to the Grand Kai's planet, and upon arrival, they learn that Cell, Frieza, King Cold, and the four deceased members of the Ginyu Force are causing trouble in hell. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. He died when Goku accidentally turned into an Oozaru and crushed him underneath his foot. Dende might be one of the cutest and most endearing Namekians around, but the title of being a Guardian is somewhat wasted on him — especially since he's just so frustratingly weak as a fighter. Although it is implied that goku became much stronger as a result of this training, I suspect, that this is when he achieved ssj3. Keep in mind that Angels are always more powerful than the Gods of Destruction that they attend to. Now Superman has some huge strength that is more then Goku, easily planet level and higher. It seems that being a Guardian implies the need to be an absolute weakling since Kami is the perfect definition of a pushover. The Grand Priest announced. Of course, that pretty much goes without saying since he's a destroyer, after all. In either case, he's never trained under him. However, at this point in time, the only reason why Korin is still relevant is because of the Senzu Beans that he produces. King Kai watches over the north. like king kai taught goku … I don't think we see him train with grand kai in the anime or manga. While much is not known about the Grand Kai, he is shown to be humble and relaxed persona to him, yet retains a air of authority around him (all of his fellow Supreme Kais look up to him). The whole object of the Budoukai in the afterlife (where Goku fought Paikuhan in the finals) was that the winner would receive special training under the Dai Kaiou. Ask any person about the show that got them interested in anime in the first place, and chances are that the majority of responses that you'll receive will either outright state Dragon Ball Z or refer to it in some way or the other. During the Other World Saga, the tournament was filled with powerful fighters with unique abilities. Goku has proved time and time again that he can overcome any obstacle in his way but some of these gods are in another league entirely. "Okay seriously you guys have got to teach me how to do that." 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Others 5 Discussions Moro is a powerful wizard who threatened Universe 7 about ten million years ago. Time to talk about the exact opposite of someone who's imposing. So, without further ado, here are 15 gods more powerful than Goku, coupled with 10 weaklings who aren't even fit enough to clean his boots. So in short, in the manga he never was even lined up at any point to train under the Dai Kaiou, and in the anime, he may get to train under him in a few centuries. However, the fact of the matter is that Old Kai turned from what could've been quite an interesting character into a running joke with little to no relevance in the grand scheme of things. You'd think that a person who looks over an entire Universe would find it in his best interests to develop his or her power to the point where it can actually challenge everyone in said universe. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Grand Priest Goku and Jiren Vs. Cumber Cumber is still alive and Cumber wrecked Toppo. His home is the Grand Kai's planet. If anything, Rumush is actually extremely lazy and finds it a massive bother to even destroy planets, in the first place. However, his power level is not even close to Goku's current strength. King Kai tells Goku that everyone must train for 10,000 years to earn a lesson from the Grand Kai. We say this mainly because of the fact that he wasn't even fighting at his full power during his battle with Goku in the initial moments of Dragon Ball Super. However, don't let that statement take away from the fact that this God can wipe the floor with anyone and everyone who might come in his way. He is considerably stronger than the other Kais and is known to be the greatest fighter in the four galaxies. it was interesting to get a hint of other universes. He wears an orange knotted cloth around his waist, as well as the same navy and yellow waistcoat and purple cape as Fat Buu. There's a reason why pretty much every God of Destruction bends over backward to accommodate anything and everything that Zeno wishes to do — they don't want their entire existence (and their universe) to be eliminated with a simple flick of his wrist. The fact that Vermoud is based on the characterization of Joker should be proof enough that this character is not someone to be taken lightly. Several new original storylines are added to its continuity in the form of thirteen theatrical films, some of which are integrated into the main anime, and others following alternate timelines and scenarios. Olibu's first opponent was Chapuchai, a fight… Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. However, this perception has been completely altered with the advent of Dragon Ball Super. S. Kai … Dragon Ball Z:Majin-Boo Appears In Grand Kai's Planet. The Grand Supreme Kai (Daikaioh) … Grand Kai's Palace. As we've already mentioned before, the introduction of the Gods of Destruction means that pretty much any divine entity that had been introduced before have become moot. Goku is brought to Grand Kai in the beginning of the Great Saiyaman Saga by King Kai. Don't let the appearance of this particular God of Destruction fool you — the last thing anyone should do is take Vermoud for granted since he would be more than willing to grind you to a pulp. Grand Supreme Kai resembles the fat form of Majin Buu that his absorption would eventually create. King Kai tells him there are warriors that can match Pikkon's strength. This show took the lore of Dragon Ball to new heights, with a wide array of universes coming into the foray that completely escalated the already high power levels featured in this series to an entirely different level. Linking their lives is a little difficult if one of them is hundreds if not thousands of times older. While these limitations might've decreased slightly over time, the fact of the matter is that Shenron is still woefully inept — especially when compared to the other wish-granting dragons. Remember when we stated that Vados and Whis were siblings? After all, the fact of the matter is that everyone in Earth was searching day in and day out for these Dragon Balls to attain their deepest desires. Well then that makes sense. Each and every anime series that attained worldwide popularity after Dragon Ball Z should ideally be thanking this show for providing them with this golden opportunity to become culturally relevant on a global scale. However, one should never underestimate a destroyer — while he might require Mosco to fight other Gods of Destruction on a level field, there's no reason why he can't destroy Goku in a one-on-one fight... especially if he uses his full power. Produced by Toei Animation, the series was originally broadcast in Japan on Fuji TV from April 5, 2009 to March 27, 2011. Similar to Goku, the Grand Supreme Kai also has a very large appetite and loves to dine on good food. Suddenly, the other three Kai's walk over to King Kai, making fun of him for being dead. I'm assuming his new teacher became Whis? I know that Grand Kai is very fast, without trying, easily above light speed, but is below supreme kai. These two are … However, this is simply not the case with Quitela, who serves as the powerful God of Destruction in Universe 4. Well, this certain someone is none other than Zeno, the ruler of the entire universe. Unlike the other Gods of Destruction who look like normal beings — until they whip out their massive power levels, that is — Giin is perhaps the only God who actually looks like a warrior, with rippling muscles and a physique that would make any bodybuilder jealous. Loading... Unsubscribe from Anime HQ? However, that doesn't talk away from the fact that he is so incredibly pitiful that no one really counts on him in a tight spot. There's going to be a massive inflow of various Gods of Destruction on this list, and for good reason — each and every one of them can single-handedly beat Goku to a pulp without so much as breaking a sweat. His outfit consists of the shirt and trousers usually worn by Supreme Kais but without the regal tunic-like garment over the top. Grand Kai is considerably stronger than the other Kais, and is known to be the greatest fighter in the four quarters of the universe. Well, Dragon Ball Super issue 49 reveals just why Kid Buu was so strong - and it's a game-changing revelation, indeed! The planet is shown a few times in Dragon Ball GT, most often when King Kai appears in the series. This, coupled with a bunch of nifty abilities such as time travel and interstellar travel, truly make Whis a force to be reckoned with. The Beerus-Kai link has to be Beerus and Old Kai, since its stated he sealed the Old Kai and the current Supreme Kai wasn't alive back then (Old Kai said he was from 15 generations ago). On one team are the original masters of the two schools, Miyagi Nariyoshi and John Kreese. Anime HQ. The fact that he was able to bring an entire planet and its inhabitants back to life should be proof enough of Super Shenron's superiority over pretty much any other wish-granting dragon that's been showcased. 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